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07-20-2008, 11:28 AM
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| | | MMA for kids Saw this on tv this morning. ESPN - Outside the Lines
I enjoy MMA but I can't decide whether this is too much. Should kids be doing MMA at such a young age? Is this the new alt sport to football, baseball, or basketball?
I don't know how many sR members ever played organized sports at a young age or even do martial arts as a child, but would like to here your feed back.
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07-20-2008, 11:30 AM
|  | You Magnificent Bastard! | | Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: some western town
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| | | no, i think that's crap.
i have no problem with them training for it, getting in shape, getting the skills. Martial arts is great for discipline and training. But it must stop at actual fighting - maybe some light sparring with full pads and helmets, but that's it.
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07-20-2008, 11:47 AM
|  | strafeRight4Dead | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeeDot SeaDot
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| | | For my boys:
Pre Puberty: swimming and soccer
Post: weights and kung fu
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07-20-2008, 12:02 PM
|  | The Dude Abides | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The arctic North Coast
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| | | "mixed martial arts" is in itself bullshit. Why not "mixed economies" or "mixed religions"?
It's not a cafeteria. Mixing and matching doesn't work. Each martial art, be it jujitsu, Kung Fu, Karate, etc requires a complete devotion. Just picking and chosing what you like and don't like goes against the very nature of martial arts. If a kid were to take up a pure form, like karate, and dedicate himself to learning it the correct way with a good sensei, he will learn self-discipline, confidence, strength, and above all, that it's a fighting form used as a last resort. These people become leaders.
Teaching a kid that mma crap IMHO probably teaches a lot of kids to be bullies.
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07-20-2008, 12:04 PM
|  | strafeRight4Dead | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeeDot SeaDot
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| | | Mixed Martial Arts.
UFC type stuff. | 
07-20-2008, 12:44 PM
|  | m00tini! | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Some Hotel Somewhere
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 : 78 th | | | it depends on the rules for striking. frankly, they can roll around all they want. but if they're bashing skulls in, that's a problem.
weights should be closely monitored as Tao mentioned. the wrong program can stunt growth and hurt ligaments at young ages. but the correct program can actually help development. more reps, less weight is best when young. | 
07-20-2008, 04:30 PM
|  | Lost in space | | Join Date: May 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by DennyCrane
"mixed martial arts" is in itself bullshit. Why not "mixed economies" or "mixed religions"?
It's not a cafeteria. Mixing and matching doesn't work. Each martial art, be it jujitsu, Kung Fu, Karate, etc requires a complete devotion. Just picking and chosing what you like and don't like goes against the very nature of martial arts. If a kid were to take up a pure form, like karate, and dedicate himself to learning it the correct way with a good sensei, he will learn self-discipline, confidence, strength, and above all, that it's a fighting form used as a last resort. These people become leaders.
Teaching a kid that mma crap IMHO probably teaches a lot of kids to be bullies.
| You have I hope actually done some research into the sport your bashing here. Most of the top fighters are either extremely accomplished wrestlers, or black belts in their most trained martial art. Some of them have black belts in more than one. As with any other sport, if kids are trained properly and taught the right lessons, then it's not really a big deal as long as their safety is watched out for.
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07-20-2008, 05:10 PM
|  | The Dude Abides | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The arctic North Coast
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Originally Posted by Cipher
You have I hope actually done some research into the sport your bashing here. Most of the top fighters are either extremely accomplished wrestlers, or black belts in their most trained martial art. Some of them have black belts in more than one. As with any other sport, if kids are trained properly and taught the right lessons, then it's not really a big deal as long as their safety is watched out for.
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1) I've done research into the what I trained in. I was trained that a discipline is dilluted when you attempt to combine with another, i.e. "jack of all trades, master of none."
2) I haven't "bashed" anything. Internet forums are for the exchange of ideas, facts, and opinions. If you disagree with what you read, it's probably because of a differing opinion. "Bashing" would be pointing out that you should have typed "you're" instead of "your".
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07-20-2008, 06:26 PM
|  | WHARRGARBL! | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: WHARRGARBL!
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| | IMO leave the tough sports out until theyre older. My dad did football a lot when he was younger, and for years now he has had loads of back, knee and shoulder problems Quote:
Originally Posted by Tao
For my boys:
Pre Puberty: swimming and soccer
Post: weights and kung fu
My soldiers will destroy you.
| If they dont get mushy brains from the soccer balls
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07-20-2008, 09:07 PM
|  | Sparty | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Michigan
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| | | I'm pretty sure where the "mixed" part comes in is putting two fighters with different martial arts backgrounds against one another. Most of the fighters are trained in 1 or at most 2 styles, not 10.
I think Coffee has the right idea, let them learn what it's about: skills, techniques, physical and metal preparation training while they are young, but I don't think they should be having actual matches until they are legal adults who can make their own decisions (~18 years old).
I think there really is a very definite line between allowing kids to be in violent sports like MMA where the basic purpose is to knock out or injure an opponent and banning non-violent ones like tag or dodgeball because a kid might get hurt. Kids should be allowed to be kids, they're going to get hurt sometimes, but they shouldn't be put in the position where they are supposed to either get hurt or hurt someone else. |  | |
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