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08-26-2008, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by VincentVega
both of you are missing the simpler solution - any race that can travel interstellar space is going to have no problem redirecting a simple rocket. You might like to have it travel into local space and hit something, but the facts are we couldn't even do that today with a planet-killer comet. They'd simply turn it around and have it blow up in the atmosphere, or disable it with an EMP, or simply destroy it before it got close enough to do anything
| ummmm.... macbook virus, then?
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08-26-2008, 10:43 AM
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| | | also, Jeff Goldblum and eternal nice guy Will Smith would fly up from Hollywood. problem solved!
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08-26-2008, 10:44 AM
|  | Ooma-mow-mow, papa-ooma-mow-mow | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The arctic North Coast
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Originally Posted by VincentVega
both of you are missing the simpler solution - any race that can travel interstellar space is going to have no problem redirecting a simple rocket. You might like to have it travel into local space and hit something, but the facts are we couldn't even do that today with a planet-killer comet. They'd simply turn it around and have it blow up in the atmosphere, or disable it with an EMP, or simply destroy it before it got close enough to do anything
| There's really nothing that can stop a short range chemical rocket. We're not talking intercontinental ballistic ranges, we're talking short range tactical nukes. EMP won't stop it, and you just need to get it close.
Like I said, last line of defense, it'll be devasating.
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08-27-2008, 03:16 PM
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| | | Beatles space broadcast 'risks alien attack' Beatles space broadcast 'risks alien attack' - Telegraph Quote:
Fears that malevolent aliens will tune into this week's broadcast of The Beatles' song "Across the Universe" have been voiced by scientists.
Nasa started to beam the song towards the North Star, 431 light years from Earth at midnight GMT on Monday, drawing congratulations from former Beatle Sir Paul McCartney and John Lennon's widow, Yoko Ono, who mused that it marked "the beginning of the new age in which we will communicate with billions of planets across the universe." The transmission raises questions about what we would want aliens to learn about our world
But today's New Scientist asks whether such signals could expose us to the risk of attack from mean spirited aliens.
Scientists considered this question at the "Sound of Silence" meeting at Arizona State University in Tempe this week.
"Before sending out even symbolic messages, we need an open discussion about the potential risks," says Douglas Vakoch of the Seti (Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence) Institute, Mountain View, California.
Humankind has already given away our position in the solar system and information about human biology on the Voyager and Pioneer probes, and in a message sent from the Arecibo observatory in 1974.
"It's very charitable to send out our encyclopaedia, but that may short-change future generations," Vakoch tells New Scientist, calling for caution.
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"I have no fear that NASA's latest transmission exposes Earth to any danger from aliens," he tells The Daily Telegraph.
"However, I do believe that even symbolic transmissions from Earth deserve broad-based discussion before hitting "send." "
"Although one-time transmissions to distant stars stand little chance of being intercepted, they do set a precedent for intentionally making ourselves known to other civilizations.
"I think the more important question is what we would want to say about ourselves to other worlds, and that's something deserving of global input," he says.
However, fellow Seti Institute researcher Seth Shostak is not worried and writes off the fears as paranoid, given that "the one thing we know about aliens - if they do exist - is that they are very, very far away."
He adds that we have been announcing our presence for decades. "Military radar signals have already penetrated deep into space, and early broadcasts of Star Trek and I Love Lucy are washing over one star system a day," says Shostak. "If they're listening, they already know we're here."
The meeting - aptly titled "Sound of Silence" - was told that after half a century of combing the skies, the search for extraterrestrial intelligence hasn't heard a peep from any little green men and women, and it may be time for a rethink.
"Have we been looking in the wrong place, at the wrong time, in the wrong way?" asks conference organiser Prof Paul Davies of Arizona State University. "The purpose of this meeting is to brainstorm some radically new thinking on the subject. "
One idea is to focus on the cosmic microwave background, the relic radiation left behind by the Big Bang that contributes to the white noise in a poorly tuned television. Intelligent aliens are likely to be "tuned" to this. Other debates concerned the type of alien signals being sought.
"What other signatures of alien technology might we look for, such as anomalously depleted resources, or debris from waste products?," he tells the Telegraph.
"Could a message be buried in DNA? But we have also heard from sceptics, for example, that it could be a fallacy to suppose that "intelligence" is a biological niche waiting to be filled by evolution. It may be just a quirky trait, like the elephant's trunk."
Efforts to date have not covered much ground in scouring the skies. However last year, the first of the 42 dishes of the Allen Telescope Array began operation, which will be dedicated entirely to SETI. And the proposed Square Kilometre Array telescope will be sensitive enough to pick up signals such as alien TV and radio.
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08-27-2008, 03:19 PM
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| | | we should just feed aliens to piranhas, and film it, then send that film out to the universe, everyone will think our planet is inhabited by fucking badass fish.
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08-27-2008, 03:19 PM
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| | | I agree. no need to broadcast
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08-27-2008, 07:15 PM
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| | | You know, some people like to refer to George Harrison as "the 4th Beatle".
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