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04-18-2008, 10:40 PM
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| | | UAC Designed to "Annoy Users" Quote:
The User Account Control in Windows Vista improves security by reducing application privileges from administrative to standard levels, but UAC has been widely criticized for the nagging alerts it generates. According to one Microsoft (NSDQ:MSFT) executive, the annoyance factor was actually part of the plan.
In a Thursday presentation at RSA 2008 in San Francisco, David Cross, a product unit manager at Microsoft who was part of the team that developed UAC, admitted that Microsoft's strategy with UAC was to irritate users and ISVs in order to get them to change their behavior.
"The reason we put UAC into the platform was to annoy users. I'm serious," said Cross.
| Knowing how many gamers are troubled by the trials and tribulations of Vista, most noticeably User Account Control, this is certainly an enlightening piece of information. It's hard not to notice how ridiculous the words sound, Cross himself has to reaffirm the statement. The question is, is he being serious for our benefit, or his own? Microsoft Exec: UAC Designed To 'Annoy Users' - Software - IT Channel News by CRN and VARBusiness
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04-18-2008, 10:44 PM
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 : 70 th | | | Ironically enough I think that is a good plan. Most people don't know they are doing something wrong (intentionally or unintentionally) and UAC helps them by reminding them of everything. Its not as bad as everyone states, since Linux commonly uses a more refined style of UAC (which only bothers you with system tasks).
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04-19-2008, 10:43 AM
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 : 78 th | | | UAC is a huge pain in the arse. I appreciate what they were trying to accomplish, but it really doesn't do much other than (as noted) annoy people. | 
04-19-2008, 12:16 PM
|  | om mani padme hum | | Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: All over Canada
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| | | Vista: Allow or Deny?
Mac: Please enter your password:
Linux: Please enter user name and password:
Annoying? Maybe. As bad as the other OS security? I don't think so.
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04-19-2008, 01:15 PM
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| | | I'd have to agree... every time you run updates on a Mac (among other things) you have to put in the admin password. I'd rather click on a button than have to do that every freaking time.
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04-19-2008, 01:35 PM
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| | | Yeah, you can click a button when you're under any state of mind...... intoxicated or otherwise..... but typing in a password..... good luck doing that on LSD. | 
04-19-2008, 01:56 PM
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 : 13 th | | | ahhhh just seeing UAC makes my head hurt ! !
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04-19-2008, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BuddhistSoldier
Vista: Allow or Deny?
Mac: Please enter your password:
Linux: Please enter user name and password:
Annoying? Maybe. As bad as the other OS security? I don't think so.
| It is worse than other OS's. I've never had to enter my username/password to change the background. | 
04-19-2008, 05:47 PM
|  | ALTMAN BE PRAISED | | Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ohio
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| | | Buddhist, that doesn't compare. On OSX, you have to enter your password for various things. You can lock your control panel, and then you need to enter your password to unlock or make changes. You need to enter your password to install System applications and stuff, but not local stuff to your user.
Linux asks even less, you only need your password to login or sudo to run some root commands (you can use sudo in OSX, too).
In Windows, UAC pops up for EVERYTHING. Hell, during one of the alphas, it would ask you Allow/Deny just for clicking the start button. It really does ask you Allow/Deny for any little thing you do. Run an application? Allow/Deny? Change some settings? Allow/Deny? etc.
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04-19-2008, 06:25 PM
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 : 43 rd | | | move your mouse? allow/deny
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