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09-11-2003, 12:38 PM
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| | | I hope those Nvidia owners dont want to play HL2
Once again nvidia receives a spanking. Good news for the 9600 users though  http://www.tech-report.com/etc/2003q...e/index.x?pg=1 |
09-11-2003, 12:43 PM
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| | To think.. i paid such a pretty penny for my 5900U too...
Oh well, i got my 9600P coming... *Hurry Sager!!! * |
09-11-2003, 02:05 PM
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| | | The GeForce 2, 3, and 4 were all great chips. To bad Nvidia blew it. ATI wins this round. GeForce FX = Biggest mistake in video card history IMO. Maybe if GeForce learns from this they will make a GeForce 5 (FX were more like 4.25).
(Now if only ATI could update their drivers in a speedy manner.) |
09-11-2003, 02:10 PM
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| | | Ouch!
Makes me glad I switched to ATI after my GF3ti500!
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09-11-2003, 04:37 PM
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| | | BTW, in case you didnt read this on the Halflife2.net site, the label is wrong on the slides, it is the 9600 PRO, not the 9600, that kills the NVidia cards!!
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09-11-2003, 04:42 PM
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| | Well wont matter to the new sager owners - but thanks for the clearup. Quote: Originally posted by Syndicat3
BTW, in case you didnt read this on the Halflife2.net site, the label is wrong on the slides, it is the 9600 PRO, not the 9600, that kills the NVidia cards!! | |
09-11-2003, 06:18 PM
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| | | Tomshardware.com has a pretty good write up on the current round of shennanigans as well. Look to me like Nvidia may have tweaked themselves out of some funcstional hardware. Ever tweaked yourself out of a functional OS? happens to me on occasion. you just keep tweaking trying to get a smidge more performance until all of a sudden your system is borked, and it look like Nvidia may have done the same thing here, but with hardware and drivers. According to the performance figures Valve released, the Geforce4 TI pulls higher frame rates than any other Nvidia product besides their flagship 5900. That is whack, even though the G4 is dx8. I seriously hope that the updated Nvidia drivers fix this problem as Nvidia claims in their response to the Valve release, or else they will have some seriously peeved customers. If Valve is correct in their assertion that HL2 will be an accurate predictor of future dx9 game performance, it could be even more grim if the drivers don't fix the problem, as Nvidia could be looking forward to getting smacked in a lot more benchmarks.
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09-12-2003, 12:13 AM
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| | | dang... i was gonna go with another GeForce too... oh well... my only nVidia card was a GF3 (not Ti)...
my Prostar 8814 (or Sager 8890's twin) is my first ATI card....
I had one Matrox card...
and technically 3 S3 cards... 1st one was a Decelerator... 2nd, i mis0flashed the bios... and 3rd did quite well... it's in my P3 system.
i'm all over the map...
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09-12-2003, 01:04 AM
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| | | My first nVidia card(the card before that came with my comp and was an ATI) was the GeForce 1 Annihilator Pro card, put out by Creative. It was a great video card and last along time. I just replaced it last year after it started to go bad. Ran every game i had great. It hooked me on GeForce cards. My current desktop card is a GeForce 4 4400 Ti. So far it too has been a great card.
I'm not one to go out and buy the latest, greatest card each year but this stink going on has me wondering. I just ordered a laptop with the 128 mb GeForce 5650.
Is is a P.O.S.? I know when it comes to these tests that it is hard to see a lot of defference between cards when they are running fairly close to each other, but this sounds bad. Real bad. And they arent running close to each other.
I am/was looking forward to HL2 quite a bit. Is this getting overblown in seriousness? How will this carry over to the mobile cards?
anyone know?
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09-12-2003, 09:09 AM
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| | I gotta tell you Van that right now (despite what nvidia say) HL2 runs like total crap on their cards. The mobile 5650 would probably not be able to run HL2 at a playable frame rate right now. Add to that the fact that nvidia have been fudging results, customizing drivers to get better benchmarks and the whole pixel shading issue. I just would not trust their cards. (Im not saying ATI doesnt do the same thing but on nowhere near the same scale). For me right now ATI are definately the superior card - even if they are slow as hell to get drivers out. Quote: Originally posted by Van
My first nVidia card(the card before that came with my comp and was an ATI) was the GeForce 1 Annihilator Pro card, put out by Creative. It was a great video card and last along time. I just replaced it last year after it started to go bad. Ran every game i had great. It hooked me on GeForce cards. My current desktop card is a GeForce 4 4400 Ti. So far it too has been a great card.
I'm not one to go out and buy the latest, greatest card each year but this stink going on has me wondering. I just ordered a laptop with the 128 mb GeForce 5650.
Is is a P.O.S.? I know when it comes to these tests that it is hard to see a lot of defference between cards when they are running fairly close to each other, but this sounds bad. Real bad. And they arent running close to each other.
I am/was looking forward to HL2 quite a bit. Is this getting overblown in seriousness? How will this carry over to the mobile cards?
anyone know? |  |  | |
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