PS3 close-to-final hardware slow and broken?

[Karma]

I really thought Sony would have worked out all of the kinks by now; and only with 6 months left before launch. Things aren't looking good:

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For local memory, the measured vs theoretical bandwidth is missing, I wonder why? RSX is at a solid 22.4GBps for both read and write, good job there green team. Then comes the blue team with Cell. Local memory write is about 4GBps, 40% of the next slowest bandwidth there. Then comes the bomb from hell, the Cell local memory read bandwidth is a stunning 16MBps, note that is a capital M to connote Mega vs a capital G to connote Giga. This is a three order of magnitude oopsie, and it is an oopsie, as Sony put it "(no, this isn't a typo...)".

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The next slide goes on to say "Don't read from local memory, but write to main memory with RSX(tm) and read it from there instead", and repeats the table numbers. This is very very bad. The number of times the presentation goes on to say that it is correct, and the lack of anything like "this will be fixed by production steppings, so take measures X, Y and Z" say to me that it is not a fixable snafu. Remember at E3 when I said that the PS3 demos there were object sparse? Any guesses why?

PS3 hardware slow and broken: In Sony's words and pictures

Now I'm just pissed. Is Sony trying to kill themselves?

[zakaluka2]

Well, the Inquirer is known to be ultra-sensationalistic. So, I would like to see some independent confirmation before condemning the PS3 and Sony for these alleged snafus. However, I would say that Sony has really screwed up the handling of the PS3, from design to now and will probably do so till launch.

Hell, the only reason I would even consider one of these consoles is so that I can write software for the Cell architecture (instead of just on the IBM SDK).

Regards,

zakaluka2.

[DarkForceRising]

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Originally Posted by zakaluka2

Well, the Inquirer is known to be ultra-sensationalistic. So, I would like to see some independent confirmation before condemning the PS3 and Sony for these alleged snafus. However, I would say that Sony has really screwed up the handling of the PS3, from design to now and will probably do so till launch.

I tend to think that Sony will keep screwing it up even after launch, though.

[Dukefrukem]

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Originally Posted by DarkForceRising

I tend to think that Sony will keep screwing it up even after launch, though.

on what basis?

[Karma]

Cell specs downgrading from 3.5 GHz to 2.8 GHz based on yields? :

More problems beset the PS3: Kotaku spills the beans

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Originally Posted by Charlie Demerjian

Looks like the PS3 is getting to be a better 'value' every day according to Sony's slightly reality-tangential maths.

[chode_messiah]

I hate ranboy threads:thumbdown:

[Karma]

Any other news?

[zakaluka2]

Well, Sony just delayed the Bu-Ray stand-alone players to August. So, I would assume they would delay the PS3 as well. Otherwise, they would kill one of their own product lines ($1,000 for stand-alone vs $600 for PS3). Links at:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3151389
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=17627
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060612-7036.html

Of course, these articles only talk about the stand-alone players. However, if they are having problems significant enough that they are letting Samsung beat them to market, one can safely postulate that the PS3 will be delayed as well.

Regards,

zakaluka2.

[Karma]

No, the PS3 isn't going to be delayed anymore. If anything, they'll launch it to low availability, just like the X360, and real units on shelves in 2007.

[zakaluka2]

Well, they can't launch it if they don't have the Blu-Ray drives... The only manufacturer that is shipping a Blu-Ray drive of any kind right now is Toshiba.